Speed Indicator Devices : Consultation closing 30 June 16

speed re SIDS

To read responses to the consultation, please scroll to the foot of the page.

Should Border Group Parish Council buy Speed Indicator Devices?  (SIDS)

Before BGPC can go ahead, evidence is needed that parishioners want SIDS in their villages.

What are Speed Indicator Devices?  A speed indicator device is a portable temporary sign with a variable display that detects and records the speed of an approaching vehicle. If the vehicle is travelling too fast, it flashes up the speed on a roadside display monitor.
The aim is to draw drivers’ attention to their speed and let them know they are over the limit, encouraging them to slow down.

Where would they be put?  Border Group Parish Council is hoping to deploy SIDS in Adforton, Brampton Bryan, Lingen & Walford.

How much would they cost?  The final cost has yet to be determined, but it would be covered by funds from a Section 106 Agreement.  The precept will not be increased to pay for them.  For further information on Section 106 Agreements, click here.

Do you support this idea?    Tell us what you think :

  • Leave an anonymous comment on this website [see Leave a Reply below]
  • Email or phone your Parish Councillor [click here for contact details]
  • Meet your Councillor at the Parish Meetings in May and tell them your thoughts [click here for dates of meetings]
  • Write to the Clerk : Mrs Maureen Robinson, Border Group Parish Council, Gotherment House, Wigmore, Herefordshire.  HR6 9UF

 

16 thoughts on “Speed Indicator Devices : Consultation closing 30 June 16

  1. John Walker

    They will be discussed at tonight’s meeting of BGPC from 7pm at Lingen VH – all welcome. The view at the Annual Parish Meeting in Adforton was largely positive as an affordable attempt to solve a serious problem through the main village.

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  2. Anonymous

    I think SIDS are a brilliant idea.

    They really do have an effect of slowing down traffic that would otherwise race through villages.

    Bring it on.

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  3. Anonymous

    Very happy to try SIDS as a deterrent to those speeding through the Border Group villages. It works for me! For the record, I would not be in favour of gates/tubs/cumulative signage as I feel this would be out of character with our historic villages. Less is more.

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  4. Local Resident

    I think they sound like a really good idea. I have found they work well in other villages especially with occasional visits from someone with a speed gun.

    Nothing will stop some people but at least at SIDS will make them think.

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    1. Anonymous

      I went through a village with a SID on the Canon Pyon Road in the morning and all the traffic was going at 27 mph rather than speeding through to work.

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  5. Anonymous

    I’ve no doubt we would all like traffic to move at a safe and considerate speed in villages, but is there any hard evidence to prove that SIDS actually work as a means of slowing traffic, over and above the normal speed limit sign? They shouldn’t be necessary, as (hopefully) every driver has passed their test and knows the rules. If there is to be an additional prompt to drivers about speed, I prefer the idea of a band or marking on the road itself, as that’s where the driver’s attention should be focused and it doesn’t create the visual litter and distraction of more standing road signs.

    How much is the S106 fund for this? Are there any other ideas being floated about how it might be spent?

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    1. Anonymous

      It would only be one sign moved between villages. Making any changes to the road surface would require permission from Highways and probably a large bill from Balfour Beatty! There is evidence that SID can have some effect and they have been suggested for a while – the 106 money is just a fortuitous way to be able to pay for it.

      As it says above, you can go along to your local Parish Meeting or contact the Parish Council and make you own suggestions for spending the money.

      Speeding in villages is a difficult problem to solve but I think it is better to do something now than to leave it to get even worse.

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  6. Anonymous

    SIDS are generaly ineffective. Drivers already have speed limit signs and a speedometer to tell them that they are breaking the law and being inconsiderate. Only physical means of reducing speed are effective, such as radar guns, speed bumps, road narrowing and parked cars. Since funds for traditional means of traffic calming are not available I would suggest that, where necessary and legal, residents use parked cars to reduce traffic speed.

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  7. Anonymous

    I would not support the introduction of SID in Brampton Bryan. I agree with the idea of writing DEAD SLOW and putting out flower pots to remind the speeders that it is actually a village, especially coming from Knighton.

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  8. Anonymous

    SIDS in my opinion have very positive affect on the speed of drivers through our rural villages and therefore would be beneficial. Many of our villages sit on main roads and people need reminding to slow down for the sake of us all.

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  9. Anonymous

    Dear Sirs, we live in a beautiful rural part of England. there is far too much road signage on the roads as it is. The more signs that are put up, the more people all lulled into thinking that they can drive as they do in other more built up parts of the country. It actually encourages people with a false sense of security. Flashing road signs are usually ignored by persistent speeders, look hideous and urbanise the area. Far more effective are lines on the road, and the words DEAD SLOW on the road at dangerous corners. If a flashing sign were put in Brampton Bryan village and the others, it would make it look even more like a through road than it already is. Far better would be white railings one each side of the road delineating the start and end of the village, with some nice flowers looking like pinch points and giving the impression of a narrowed road, and perhaps some cobble strips for added emphasis. This might discourage those huge pantechnicons at driving through at over 40 miles an hour, and also, I would imagine be considerably cheaper than SIDS. If I had my way, I would take down all signage in rural areas, and rely on white lines and wording on the road itself.

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    1. Anonymous

      I agree with the amount of signage that clutters our roads and the endless changes in speed limits which seems to have little connection to the dangers. I think Brampton Bryan village would benefit from the railing, road painting and planting to create an impression of narrowing, as used in other counties. However this would take a lot of organising, cost, maintenance and permissions from Hereford Council Highways (sometimes years).

      The advantage of on one SID over 4 villages is that there are funds to pay for it, without increasing the precept, it is simple and it does have some effect (if only in short bursts). It can be monitored to know if it is working and if it doesn’t work for Brampton Bryan then alternatives can be tried and perhaps the Harley Estate may wish to consider your suggestion themselves.

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    2. Anonymous

      Off subject I’m afraid, but please NO white railings, phoney gates and other urban clutter. It is ghastly taste on the naff daff spectrum, along with mowing verges, excessive night lighting, random planters, rowing boats filled with petunias on roundabouts and general chocolate box style prettying up of villages. Truly cheesy. And they would look super hideous when they are covered in the inevitable litter that villagers, walkers and dog walkers seem to ignore when they could quite easily take a bag with them and collect the odd bit of litter. No training or special skills needed.

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  10. Anonymous

    I think SIDS are a waste of administrative effort, difficult to store, expensive and ineffective. People see them once and then ignore them. They become merely more roadside clutter. To slow down traffic leave the potholes and put up warning signs saying there are potholes so as to avoid being sued should a moron rip his suspension out by going too fast.

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    1. Anonymous

      The proposal is just to buy one for all 4 villages with speed problems and so it would keep moving around and hence no storage. So they also wouldn’t be permanent clutter. You are right they can be ignored especially as driver get used to them but the regular moving to different sites would hopefully keep reminding driver that they are going through dangerous rural viable.

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